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larrybrackenbury

Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 74
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Is it legal in Ontario to tape record a conversation |
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m thinking of purchasing a digital recorder, to record any conversation I have between Managers, and HR department of my employer.
I live in Canada, and want to know if I can legally do this? Do I have to notify the other party first, that I am recording the conversation?
Because my employer has said some unethical things to me, and have asked questions that they are not legally allowed to ask, for example, they are demanding to know what kind of medication Itake.
And they have even said that Im a dangerous person towards my co workers because of my medication.
So what am I allowed to do. I would like to know before I go out and purchase a recorder. |
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Craven Moorhead

Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 108 Location: In a van down by the river
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes it is illegal to record a private conversation without the other persons express written permission to do so. |
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larrybrackenbury

Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 74
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: recording conversation |
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So, if head office of my work calls me, am I allowed to say "I will be recording this conversation?"
Can I ask that or not?
Head office ppl have said have bad things to me, and I have no proof cause it was on telephone |
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supertramp

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 3474
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: recording conversation |
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| larrybrackenbury wrote: |
So, if head office of my work calls me, am I allowed to say "I will be recording this conversation?"
Can I ask that or not?
Head office ppl have said have bad things to me, and I have no proof cause it was on telephone |
A smarter move would be to contact the labor board of your province and ask them what your options are. |
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Shy12u

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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| When my brother was having problems with his ex, the court told him he could use her recorded messages and phone calls in court but only if he wrote them out on paper, the actual recordings were not allowed. |
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DLeeworthy

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 562 Location: The County
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Just do it as if you are calling an agency. " This call may rmonitored or recorded for quality control"
Plain and simple/ |
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Shy12u

Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 962
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| KittyloveDr.ca wrote: |
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| When my brother was having problems with his ex, the court told him he could use her recorded messages and phone calls in court but only if he wrote them out on paper, the actual recordings were not allowed. |
Was he transcripting from recording or voice mail. |
his answering machine |
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exprimca

Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 705 Location: kitchener/waterloo
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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From what I know and experienced.
If its in your own home and someone comes into your home you have the right to record without knowledge.
It is your space and your property and you don't have to tell them.
At work I don't think you can as its not your property. |
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crazydoglady

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Brockville, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| You are allowed to tape record a conversation between you and any other party without their knowledge and/or consent. However, you may NOT tape record it if you have a 3rd party listening in at the time without the persons knowledge and/or consent |
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zeoul

Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1
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supertramp

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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| billybigrig wrote: |
| Yes it is illegal to record a private conversation without the other persons express written permission to do so. |
Really! Then how do you explain customer service calls to just about any insitutions like banks that begin with the recorded message that states "this call may be recorded for quality purposes"? Where's the express written permission there?  |
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Kijiji_nanagoo Volunteer Moderator
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 16906 Location: Peterborough ONT
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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One of the parties knows it is being recorded
and gave permission
but it aint you. |
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Romajest

Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1677 Location: Cloverdale BC
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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... As far as I am concerned, I'm of the opinion you can tape any conversation between parties if you tell them you are doing so. If it is at your work place, be open about it. Put the recorder on the desk in front of you. If the other party objects, you can then switch it off and tell them you are not prepared to enter into discussions unless you are allowed to tape the conversation or have a witness sit in with you.
... Telephone conversations: As ST mentioned, quite often you'll hear that warning about taping for quality control or whatever. No problem, as they informed you up front. However, there is a law: "If attaching a recording device to your phone, it must give frequent audible signal (beeps) to inform the party on the receiving end the conversation is being recorded". ... I think the frequency is every 20 secs. but cannot confirm that.
... If you want to tape a phone conversation without the receiving person's knowledge, you would require a speaker phone. You would then hold the conversation over the speaker with the phone on the cradle. You can then record the conversation with a recording device that is NOT attached to the phone. But never try using such recording as 'evidence' etc. use it only for writing a report of such conversation using quotation marks " ... " to show who said what.
... Just wondering ... are all visitors to the White House told that conversations in the round office are all recorded?
... Lily ... Larry went mad and they shot him. ... It was the humane thing to do.  |
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12foot

Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 17 Location: ontario
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently won a 15 month arbitration case by having notes which were correct about the dates,times and people who were present.When my accusor was unsure of these things and often did not give the facts exactly the same in examination and cross examination the arbitrator heavily leaned to the exacting evidence.So taping or not write every thing down while it is fresh in your head with times dates etc..These arbitrators and mediators are very good at coming to the correct conclusions based on conflicting evidence. Always tell the truth,don't act confused and stick to your story at all times.Every person should be treated equally and respectfully in the workplace.Good luck and consult a lawyer or union rep if you have one. |
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Precious_45_98

Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: Recording a conversation |
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| billybigrig wrote: |
| Yes it is illegal to record a private conversation without the other persons express written permission to do so. |
Actually it is NOT illegal to tape a conversation without the other party knowing. Canada is a "one party' country" and only the person recording the conversation needs to be aware and consent to the recording...but that person(the person recording the conversation) must take place in the conversation. You can find all of this in the Criminal Code of Canada! |
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